It’s always the opposite, right? What we’re revealing is the fact that they have a capacity to learn, to have memory. Robin Wall Kimmerer: I can’t think of a single scientific study in the last few decades that has demonstrated that plants or animals are dumber than we think. She’s written, “Science polishes the gift of seeing Indigenous traditions work with gifts of listening and language.” An expert in moss, a bryologist, she describes mosses as “the coral reefs of the forest.” She opens a sense of wonder and humility for the intelligence in all kinds of life that we are used to naming and imagining as inanimate. She is a botanist and also a member of the Citizen Potawatomi Nation. I interviewed her in 2015, and it quickly became a much-loved show, as her voice was just rising in common life. Krista Tippett, host: Few books have been more eagerly passed from hand to hand with delight in these last years than Robin Wall Kimmerer’s Braiding Sweetgrass.
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